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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
		<link>http://wormcompostingblog.com/buy-worms/what-to-look-for-when-buying-red-worms/comment-page-1/#comment-585</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 01:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually if the poundage is on and the worms are of the size you state, then by the pound is fine.

There is no way someone with the amount of orders we receive could count them all. To count 1,000 red wigglers will take 2.5 to 3 hours as I have done it numerous times before. The only reason I offer some by the count is that is the way I raise them. For instance, when an African nightcrawler reaches 10 weeks old, I can place in a bin holding 275 to allow for a little loss over the next 5 1/2 months. Usually I end up shipping 260 + counts on the African nightcrawlers.

As for the peat moss, it is not to save on shipping costs as we mainly use flat rate boxes, hence the weight does not make a difference. Quite to the contrary as our castings are a free by product where as we purchase sphagnum peat moss, hence to ship this way cost us more money. The dry medium is used for most worms as it better insulates them against cold and warm weather.

In the extreme cold and warm weather, there is actually more shipping shock using a damp medium such as castings. When the box for instance heats up during the transit in the back of a truck, it becomes a sauna, hence can easily bake the worms or at least shock them further.

Bruce</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually if the poundage is on and the worms are of the size you state, then by the pound is fine.</p>
<p>There is no way someone with the amount of orders we receive could count them all. To count 1,000 red wigglers will take 2.5 to 3 hours as I have done it numerous times before. The only reason I offer some by the count is that is the way I raise them. For instance, when an African nightcrawler reaches 10 weeks old, I can place in a bin holding 275 to allow for a little loss over the next 5 1/2 months. Usually I end up shipping 260 + counts on the African nightcrawlers.</p>
<p>As for the peat moss, it is not to save on shipping costs as we mainly use flat rate boxes, hence the weight does not make a difference. Quite to the contrary as our castings are a free by product where as we purchase sphagnum peat moss, hence to ship this way cost us more money. The dry medium is used for most worms as it better insulates them against cold and warm weather.</p>
<p>In the extreme cold and warm weather, there is actually more shipping shock using a damp medium such as castings. When the box for instance heats up during the transit in the back of a truck, it becomes a sauna, hence can easily bake the worms or at least shock them further.</p>
<p>Bruce</p>
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		<title>By: The Berwick Worm farm and waste Systems</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Berwick Worm farm and waste Systems</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jun 2010 21:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still say count the worms. It might be harder5 and more expensive but it is a lot fairer. You order a Pound of worms from dealers and they say 600 to 800 to the pound. Did you ever order from people like Uncle Jim? His pound of worms should be 2000, they are so small. I want to satisfy my customers so I spend Sunday and Sometimes Monday counting the worms. I usually ship about 10% more and I ship in the castings not dry peat moss to save on Postage.There is less shipping shock using castings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still say count the worms. It might be harder5 and more expensive but it is a lot fairer. You order a Pound of worms from dealers and they say 600 to 800 to the pound. Did you ever order from people like Uncle Jim? His pound of worms should be 2000, they are so small. I want to satisfy my customers so I spend Sunday and Sometimes Monday counting the worms. I usually ship about 10% more and I ship in the castings not dry peat moss to save on Postage.There is less shipping shock using castings.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
		<link>http://wormcompostingblog.com/buy-worms/what-to-look-for-when-buying-red-worms/comment-page-1/#comment-59</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 11:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can count the larger worms, i.e. European &amp; African Nightcrawlers, &lt;b&gt;if you are selling mature size worms ONLY&lt;/b&gt;. Anyone who has tried to count out just five pounds (4,000-5,000) of the little red wigglers can attest to this. This actually will take several hours to accomplish.


It is not whether you count the individual worms or weigh them out; it is the principle of giving the customer what they ordered.  &lt;a href=http://OrganicWormFarm.com/store target=_blank rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Organic Worm Farm&lt;/a&gt; always adds a little extra in each order to insure the customer gets what they ordered.


As for policing the industry, I agree it is a shame as there are too many unscrupulous red worm dealers, however I do not see anything changing in the industry. I recommend one use a reputable vendor as once you do, you will see the difference in the quality and quantity of the worms!


One thing that may assist is a new forum we recently started, &lt;a href=http://TheWormExpert.com target=_blank rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Worm Expert&lt;/a&gt;. If you have a problem with a particular vendor, list it there. Being we have a large presence in the industry, we can try to assist in getting your order rectified either via refund or re-shipment of the original order. I do not guarantee we can make headway, however for the most part; we have assisted several others successfully!


Bruce Galle</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can count the larger worms, i.e. European &#038; African Nightcrawlers, <b>if you are selling mature size worms ONLY</b>. Anyone who has tried to count out just five pounds (4,000-5,000) of the little red wigglers can attest to this. This actually will take several hours to accomplish.</p>
<p>It is not whether you count the individual worms or weigh them out; it is the principle of giving the customer what they ordered.  <a href=http://OrganicWormFarm.com/store target=_blank rel="nofollow">Organic Worm Farm</a> always adds a little extra in each order to insure the customer gets what they ordered.</p>
<p>As for policing the industry, I agree it is a shame as there are too many unscrupulous red worm dealers, however I do not see anything changing in the industry. I recommend one use a reputable vendor as once you do, you will see the difference in the quality and quantity of the worms!</p>
<p>One thing that may assist is a new forum we recently started, <a href=http://TheWormExpert.com target=_blank rel="nofollow">The Worm Expert</a>. If you have a problem with a particular vendor, list it there. Being we have a large presence in the industry, we can try to assist in getting your order rectified either via refund or re-shipment of the original order. I do not guarantee we can make headway, however for the most part; we have assisted several others successfully!</p>
<p>Bruce Galle</p>
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		<title>By: The Berwick Worm Farm and Waste Systems</title>
		<link>http://wormcompostingblog.com/buy-worms/what-to-look-for-when-buying-red-worms/comment-page-1/#comment-58</link>
		<dc:creator>The Berwick Worm Farm and Waste Systems</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 00:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Never mind using Migrant workers just count and sell the count. At least you no you got 1000 worms, no matter what size they are. Right now there are to many scammers in this business. Look at uncle Jim how many different names can you find. Count them he isnt smart enough to change his logo and what about Worms Wrangler. To many crooks out there to mention, get what you pay for. Never the Mexican workers. We need somebody to look into whats going on in this business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never mind using Migrant workers just count and sell the count. At least you no you got 1000 worms, no matter what size they are. Right now there are to many scammers in this business. Look at uncle Jim how many different names can you find. Count them he isnt smart enough to change his logo and what about Worms Wrangler. To many crooks out there to mention, get what you pay for. Never the Mexican workers. We need somebody to look into whats going on in this business.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
		<link>http://wormcompostingblog.com/buy-worms/what-to-look-for-when-buying-red-worms/comment-page-1/#comment-57</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 09:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greetings,


Red Worms is actually a broad term specifying a number or worms. So in short if someone is offering red worms, you need to ask specifically which type. 


You can get red wiggler worms from &lt;a href=&quot;http://OrganicWormFarm.com/store&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Organic Worm Farm&lt;/a&gt; with starter packages from just $12.95!


Bruce</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greetings,</p>
<p>Red Worms is actually a broad term specifying a number or worms. So in short if someone is offering red worms, you need to ask specifically which type. </p>
<p>You can get red wiggler worms from <a href="http://OrganicWormFarm.com/store" rel="nofollow">Organic Worm Farm</a> with starter packages from just $12.95!</p>
<p>Bruce</p>
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		<title>By: douglas wehmeier</title>
		<link>http://wormcompostingblog.com/buy-worms/what-to-look-for-when-buying-red-worms/comment-page-1/#comment-56</link>
		<dc:creator>douglas wehmeier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 01:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i am starting worm bed for fishing.  wigglers.  just wigglers for panfishing. are red worms the same as wigglers? if so how much. thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i am starting worm bed for fishing.  wigglers.  just wigglers for panfishing. are red worms the same as wigglers? if so how much. thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
		<link>http://wormcompostingblog.com/buy-worms/what-to-look-for-when-buying-red-worms/comment-page-1/#comment-16</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 14:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Howard,

Welcome to Organic Worm Farm.

Nothing towards you as your counts maybe accurate, however in reality I have found more inaccurate orders by other competitors when sold by the count.  Yes we do order from competitors and even use some “Secret Shoppers”   to make purchases as well so as not to give ourselves away.

To actually count worms, especially the smaller ones take quite a bit of time. I know from my conversations with others in the industry, many competitors use migrant workers to count worms to help keep cost down.

There are some different reasons for selling by the count such as our African Nightcrawlers. Unlike Red Wiggler Worms, which mature in approximately 90 days to adult breeders, the Africans take approximately 8 months to mature to adult breeder size. Hence they are kept in breeder bins which start out holding close to 300 worms. By the time they finish maturing there will be some loss as we screen each container every two weeks, natural causes… On average we end up with 262 African Nightcrawlers per breeder bin when all is said and done. 

These are easier to count at this point due to their size. So when we state 250 African Nightcrawlers, there is at least this many usually with a number of extra worms.

Also our Alabama Jumpers are sold by the one thousand counts due to the time it takes to dig them up. They do require a lot more room to multiply efficiently. Also they are a good size worm, hence easy to count.

I have tried raising Alabama Jumpers in breeder bins, however found the cocoon laying ratio was far surpassed by those raised outside in fields.

Other than that, I highly recommend purchasing by the pound. 

&lt;b&gt;Most importantly, I recommend using a reputable worm farm such as Organic Worm Farm when ordering your worms, hence eliminating any hassles of being shorted on your order!&lt;/b&gt;

Bruce</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Howard,</p>
<p>Welcome to Organic Worm Farm.</p>
<p>Nothing towards you as your counts maybe accurate, however in reality I have found more inaccurate orders by other competitors when sold by the count.  Yes we do order from competitors and even use some “Secret Shoppers”   to make purchases as well so as not to give ourselves away.</p>
<p>To actually count worms, especially the smaller ones take quite a bit of time. I know from my conversations with others in the industry, many competitors use migrant workers to count worms to help keep cost down.</p>
<p>There are some different reasons for selling by the count such as our African Nightcrawlers. Unlike Red Wiggler Worms, which mature in approximately 90 days to adult breeders, the Africans take approximately 8 months to mature to adult breeder size. Hence they are kept in breeder bins which start out holding close to 300 worms. By the time they finish maturing there will be some loss as we screen each container every two weeks, natural causes… On average we end up with 262 African Nightcrawlers per breeder bin when all is said and done. </p>
<p>These are easier to count at this point due to their size. So when we state 250 African Nightcrawlers, there is at least this many usually with a number of extra worms.</p>
<p>Also our Alabama Jumpers are sold by the one thousand counts due to the time it takes to dig them up. They do require a lot more room to multiply efficiently. Also they are a good size worm, hence easy to count.</p>
<p>I have tried raising Alabama Jumpers in breeder bins, however found the cocoon laying ratio was far surpassed by those raised outside in fields.</p>
<p>Other than that, I highly recommend purchasing by the pound. </p>
<p><b>Most importantly, I recommend using a reputable worm farm such as Organic Worm Farm when ordering your worms, hence eliminating any hassles of being shorted on your order!</b></p>
<p>Bruce</p>
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